Posted by: Joe of St. Thérèse | October 29, 2008

Validity of the NO Consecration.

I do not question the validity of the NO…even if you look at the council of Trent which gives a great explanation on why the for all shouldn’t be used, but that alone does not invalidate the consecration.

If we look at the words of Consecration in Latin of the NO and match it with the EF

hoc est enim Corpus meum, quod pro vobis tradetur.

hic est enim calix Sanguinis mei novi et aeterni testamenti, qui pro vobis et pro multis effundetur in remissionem peccatorum.

compare to the 62 version

Hoc est enim Corpus Meum.

Hic est enim Calix Sánguinis Mei, novi et ætérni testaménti: Mystérium Fídei: qui pro vobis et pro multis effundétur in remissiónem peccatórum.

Notice that the essential words are exactly the same (hoc est enim corpus meum and hic est enim …sanguinis mei)

Let’s compare to the Biblical words of consecration…

Matt 26, 26: …hoc est corpus meum

Matt 26, 28…hic est enim sanguis meus novi testamenti qui pro multis effunditur in remissionem peccatorum

Mk 14, 22…hoc est corpus meum

Mk 14, 24…hic est sanguis meus novi testamenti qui pro multis effunditur

Lk 22, 19…hoc est corpus meum

Lk 22, 20…hic est calix novum testamentum in sanguine meo quod pro vobis funditur

1 Cor 11, 23…hoc est corpus meum pro vobis hoc facite in meam commemorationem

1 Cor 11, 25..hic calix novum testamentum est in meo sanguine…

Based upon our conversations in the past, you told me that the for all made it an invalid consecration.

This would mean that the Bible is incorrect. as you notice the pro multis clause is not in all of the words of consecration, it is missing from Ss. Luke and Paul’s version.

The essensial words are still common amongst all of them. This is my body, this is my blood. Those are the words of consecration.

The Vatican has issued the corrective for the “for all” issue and has mandated that the new translations use “for many”

I’m blessed to be at the Carmelites parish St. Therese in Alhambra where both the TLM and the NO are offered reverently and done Liturgical Abuse free.


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