Posted by: Joe of St. Thérèse | March 4, 2009

Thoughts for the beginning of March

1. Cardinal Mahony insults all of us.

From the online “chat” session:
Ann Scolari: What are your thoughts on the Trindentine mass?

CardinalMahony: Ann: The Tridentine Mass was meant for those who could not make the transition from Latin to English [or other languages] after the Council. But there is no participation by the people, and I don’t believe that instills the spirit of Christ among us.

I can not begin to express the insult that I feel by this comment that His Eminence made. Some people are going to say that I take this much too hard, LOL, let me explain why this is an insult for ALL Catholics not just those who go to the EF and Eastern Rites.

1. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is Calvary made ananmesis and of course as everyone knows, the four means of the Mass are Adoration, Thanksgiving, Pardon and Intersession. The very action that we’re participating in is Calvary being made anamnesis. Now in the OF, there are more responses by the laity. I often feel that the responses are forced, and not really I guess you can say authentic responses in terms of Liturgy. In otherwords, forced external participation. To say that no one participates is a complete error. Participation is not just an external action, then Cardinal Ratzinger said in his book Spirit of the Liturgy Ch. 3

But what does this active participation come down to? What does it mean that we have to do? Unfortunately, the word was very quickly misunderstood to mean something external, entailing a need for general activity, as if as many people as possible, as often as possible, should be visibly engaged in action. However, the word “part-icipation” refers to a principal action in which everyone has a “part:. And so if we want to discover the kind of doing that active participation involves, we need, first of all to determine what this central actio is in which all the members of the community are supposed to participate….The real “action” in the liturgy in which we are all supposed to participate is the action of God himself…But how can we part-cipate, have a part in this action? …If the various external actions (as a matter of fact, there are not very many of them, though they are being artificially multiplied) become the essential in the liturgy, if the liturgy degenerates into general activity, then we have radically misunderstood the “theo-drama” of the liturgy and lapsed almost into parody.”

As someone who has been attending the TLM since 2007, my reflections have been that the external participation flows more in the TLM than the OF. Let me explain what I mean. In the OF you reply to EVERYTHING…(Amen, et cum spiritu tuo, kyrie, gloria, deo gratias (x 2 on Sunday), responsorial psalm, Laus tibi Christe, Te rogamus audi nos, Suscipiat…, preface dialogue and on and on…) The reason why I say the external participation flows more in the EF is precisely because it’s not forced, you’re allowed to meditate, contemplate upon mystery, and then you hear Dominus Vobiscum, which means your prayers, your contemplation are vital to the Mass. Your presence there is participation in the central actio, the offering of the Mass. The 1st method of participation is internal, then external. not the other way around.

Since when did a Mass “not instill the Spirit of Christ in us”? Last time I checked, the Eucharist was the source and summit of our Faith. I often times feel there’s a forced sense of community at many parishes. “Go greet your neighbor” or the prolonged sign of peace. I feel that this is manufactured, not authentic. Community, comes from of course that dead language known as Latin, communio– co-with unitas-self explainable. In otherwords, community is united for the One Purpose, which is to Adore God in the Eucharist and assist at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It may or may not be expressed through hand shakes, hugs and all of that horizontal feelings and actions. These things aren’t necessary to form community. One of the great things about my parish, is that when I first started going there, people let me adore God at Mass first. After Mass one person came to me and welcomed me. That was much appreciated and a great relief to not to be a forced extrovert as it is in many other places.

As for me not being able to adjust to English, I was born in 85, a full 20 years after the council finished, so actually, I like Latin because it’s our heritage, it connects me with the Saints, and everyone previous. I long for the encounter with mystery, and Latin assists much better than English for that purpose. And also no where in the Vatican II documents did it say Mass must be entirely in the vernacular. Also, to say that is a reverse on history. Latin came before English, not the other way around.

Not to mention the scandal caused to the girl who asked this question…she may have been interested in going to the TLM, and to hear such statements from her own (and unfortunately my) Bishop must have caused great pain. Needless to say, when she does go to a TLM, that comment will be in her head. The Cardinal could have said, the TLM requires different participation, which would have been sufficient. Ann, I don’t know if you actually read this pathetic excuse for a blog, but if you do, know that your interest in the TLM is not alone. The TLM has tons of graces flowing from it. Go, worship like the Saints did before you, what’s sacred then is sacred now. What edified the Faithful then, edifies us today.

We seriously need to pray for Cardinal Mahony…so much for him being a new disciple. I’m trying to pray him out the diocese, anyone want to help? (desk job in Rome, or the archdiocese of Antarctica preferred destinations)

2. My poll

Good to see the vast majority voted for Oprah and the new age movement, I just want to know who are the two that voted to send me to the sun? Come out I say! (I assume they must not be big fans of the blog or a couple of my friends with gag votes)

3. Obama insults Catholics.

By his continual picking of “pro-abortion Catholics” for his offices, or whatever you want to call them. Last time it was Tom Daschle, now it’s Kathleen Sebelius

By picking pro-abortion Catholic, it’s an insult to those of us that attempt to live out the Faith and the teachings of the Church in every aspect of our lives. It’s a slap in the face.

One can NOT be Catholic and support abortion PERIOD!

But of course this type of arrogance was to be expected. He’s the one that had his lame office of the president elect sign, and with the changed seal during the campaign. So I guess it’s to be taken with a grain of salt.

4. The coolest couple on the Internet right now are the Princess and the Athlete at Kit’s blog….They remind me of why I actually enjoy my work with the teens. And that not all of them are caught up in the culture of lies that’s promoted by secularism and the mainstream media. While I don’t write much about the Beloved Miss and myself at this blog, I’ll only say while things are a struggle at times, we’re really supporting one another’s efforts. Continue to pray for us 🙂

5. I will be consecrating myself to the Imaculata on the 25ths of this month. Pray for me. And while I’m at it, this blog by the MI Youth here in West Covina is awesome.

6. The Dow dropped below 7k on Monday. When are the idiots in Washington going to figure out, the market doesn’t like what you’re doing and that they’re the problem.

Can we get to 2k later this year? yes we can!

7. I’ve for the past couple of weeks been quite edgy, I could use all of your prayers. I have no idea why I’ve been ridiculously angry lately. It seems that people have just been pushing the wrong buttons on me consistently lately. It’s rather annoying, it’s a good thing the beloved miss is there to comfort my on occasion troubled heart.

8. IR is right, none of us are worthy to receive Communion at any point ever. It is by the grace of God that He allows us to partake of His very flesh and blood at every Mass. (That assumes you’re in the state of grace). It’s a very humbling fact. So often at Mass, people just think about receiving. I think that we should make more Spiritual Communions (especially during Lent) to prepare ourselves for the Easter Season. That being said, I don’t know if any of you heard of the petition going around about the pro-abortion politicians receiving Communion. I did chose to sign it. If it was merely a matter of private sin, then I would not have signed it. The actions of Pelosi, Biden have caused scandal amongst the Faithful, and that is something that I can’t take. Church law (Canon 915) should be enforced by all of the Bishops’ throughout the world especially here in the US, if for anything to prevent scandal. My opinion is real simple, public action = public penance. Thanks be to God for Bps Martino, Nauuman, Burke and the rest of those that support the strict letter of the law enforcement of this Canon. I pray that it’s more strictly enforced.

9. Adoro, who is a much better writer than I’ll ever be, had a wonderful piece on reverence in the Church, but it seems to have disappeared. So, I totally lost where I wanted to go with this next point. Something about how the lack of reverence shouldn’t surprise anyone…More on this point whenever I get around to it.

10. It’s really hard to be the better person when you’re constantly provoked….

11. Is it REALLY that bad to pray a Bishop out of a diocese?

12. As a math nerd, I love the fact that 03/09 are related by square roots….though that being said, the real day to look forward to is 17/03/09…square root of 3 is 1.7, square root of 9 is 3 😉

13. The will of the people being fought again in Ca…how many times do we have to say no before the morons in Sacramento need to listen?

You have a right to be married if you fit the conditions to be married, and there’s nothing blocking your way. Homosexuals don’t, plain and simple. Judicial dictatorship indeed.

14. What in the world is wrong with the following, you tell me

Arleen Goodman: How can we make church and the mass more appealing to this younger generation? My daughter doesn’t see the importance of going to church, and says it’s boring. I try to set an example, but feel like I can’t persuade them. What can I do?

CardinalMahony: Arleen: try taking her to one of the Life Teen Masses, or a Mass that is designed for young people. Mass is always boring if we don’t bring anything of ourselves to the Mass.

15. What, 660 million wasn’t enough money for you to give away Cardinal? Do you want another lawsuit? Aye yai yai.

Troubled: Our parish priests are a bit stand off-ish. What are some suggestions to help us parishioners build a bond with our priests.

CardinalMahony: Try giving them a big hug!!!!

Last, this Weds, Fri Blog fast seems to be difficult. Hence why so many topics listed.





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