Posted by: Joe of St. Thérèse | May 21, 2009

Will zero ever get it? More stupidity out of Zero’s mouth

You know where the blood bath will be and what color it will be in. Title has the link

These are extraordinary times for our country. We’re confronting a historic economic crisis. We’re fighting two wars. We face a range of challenges that will define the way that Americans will live in the 21st century. So there’s no shortage of work to be done, or responsibilities to bear.

Okay, but I thought you were talking about gitmo not the self brought on ecconomic crisis?

And we’ve begun to make progress. Just this week, we’ve taken steps to protect American consumers and homeowners, and to reform our system of government contracting so that we better protect our people while spending our money more wisely. (Applause.) The — it’s a good bill. (Laughter.) The engines of our economy are slowly beginning to turn, and we’re working towards historic reform on health care and on energy. I want to say to the members of Congress, I welcome all the extraordinary work that has been done over these last four months on these and other issues..

Ugh, okay, since you’re talking about this, let me quickly explain the problem with the “bill of rights” for credit cards.

The problem is with the system of credit as a WHOLE!. The principle is based upon money that a. isn’t yours and most importantly b. does not exist.

Say that you get credit card with limit of $ 10 000. What does this mean? This is NOT $ 10 000 of your own money, but rather the banks $ 10 000. They are letting you borrow this amount to pay for your own expenses whatever they may be. In return for the bank letting you borrow this money you must return it at the end of the month in the form of a bill.

Eg: You are given a limit of $ 10 000. Say that you’re in school and have tuition of $ 2 000 and say books cost $ 1 000. Along with that there’s food expenses $ say 500 a month, and let’s say that you live at home, and are close to campus to walk so you don’t have those expenses. Say that the interest on the card is 10% (makes the math easy)

Now how a credit card works is like this:

Pre-Bill

$ 10 000 (balance)

– 2 000 (tuition)

-1 000 (books)

– 500 (food)

_______

$ 6 500 (remaining)

Bill time

$ 3 500 (what you spent)

+ 10% of that (charge for having the card = ($ 350)

+ late fees (if you’re late, let’s say $ 50)

____________

You pay $ 3 900

That’s $ 400 more than what you paid (or $ 350). Now I don’t know about you, but does that make any sense? Paying more than what you actually paid for? Of course not! But no thanks to president zero get used to this. You see now because of the “bill of rights” you’re going to pick up the bill for the slackers who don’t pay their bills :). (Makes me glad I don’t have one ;))

One of the biggest mistakes in American history is the removal of money from the gold standard. Money has become a subjective quanity, which the government is about to run into the ground. For every dollar they keep printing that they don’t have, the further down the dollar goes…but that’s not the point of this post.

Whose going to pay for government sponsored healthcare? You got it, it’s going to be us 🙂 As much as people gripe about the system, it’s way better than Canada’s or Britian’s. Woo hoo, your tax dollars being forced to pay for something the government can’t handle. You think the government would learn the proverb “many hands make light work” (and it’s a really good physics principle too)

In the midst of all these challenges, however, my single most important responsibility as President is to keep the American people safe. It’s the first thing that I think about when I wake up in the morning. It’s the last thing that I think about when I go to sleep at night.

Really now? So I guess you’re going to go on to explain how closing gitmo would be a great idea. I thought the first thing you thought of was Allah, but then again…..

And this responsibility is only magnified in an era when an extremist ideology threatens our people, and technology gives a handful of terrorists the potential to do us great harm. We are less than eight years removed from the deadliest attack on American soil in our history. We know that al Qaeda is actively planning to attack us again. We know that this threat will be with us for a long time, and that we must use all elements of our power to defeat it.

President Zero, I need to send you a copy of the Politically incorrect guide to Islam and the Crusades, no need to send me a flat screen back, just read the book. Extremeist, hardly.

And well no kidding, that those losers at Al Qaeda are planning to attack us again, that’s why we must be preventive and active in defense and not be passive and wait and see…

Already, we’ve taken several steps to achieve that goal. For the first time since 2002, we’re providing the necessary resources and strategic direction to take the fight to the extremists who attacked us on 9/11 in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We’re investing in the 21st century military and intelligence capabilities that will allow us to stay one step ahead of a nimble enemy. We have re-energized a global non-proliferation regime to deny the world’s most dangerous people access to the world’s deadliest weapons. And we’ve launched an effort to secure all loose nuclear materials within four years. We’re better protecting our border, and increasing our preparedness for any future attack or natural disaster. We’re building new partnerships around the world to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda and its affiliates. And we have renewed American diplomacy so that we once again have the strength and standing to truly lead the world.

Let’s get somethings straight….
1. The terrorists were NOT fighting for a particular country, but for a particular group…in this case Al Qaeda. This group Al Qaeda is located in various countries, including Iraq, Afganistan, etc.
2. We’re really good at protecting our border, right…Since all the illegal immigrants get in right ;). Of course. Are there terrorists here in the US? You betcha! They’re just not dumb enough to make an attack right now.
3. Diplomacy only works with people who like you. When people want to see the ideals that you stand for, and you dead, it doesn’t. In otherwords, you can’t negotiate with Iran and Saudi Arabia without weakness.

These steps are all critical to keeping America secure. But I believe with every fiber of my being that in the long run we also cannot keep this country safe unless we enlist the power of our most fundamental values. The documents that we hold in this very hall — the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights — these are not simply words written into aging parchment. They are the foundation of liberty and justice in this country, and a light that shines for all who seek freedom, fairness, equality, and dignity around the world.

You mean President Zero the one’s you’re currently failing to uphold? Those one’s? What do you think America is “world police?”

Last time I checked, the words “fairness” aren’t in the Declaration of Independence. We have the right to PURSUE happiness, not OBTAIN happiness. Fairness is associated with Communism and Karl Marx (oh wait, I forgot this is who you are, right out of Alinsky’s playbook)

I know you’re trying to establish the New World Order…but…I don’t think you’re that naive (wait, yes I do…)

I stand here today as someone whose own life was made possible by these documents. My father came to these shores in search of the promise that they offered. My mother made me rise before dawn to learn their truths when I lived as a child in a foreign land. My own American journey was paved by generations of citizens who gave meaning to those simple words — “to form a more perfect union.” I’ve studied the Constitution as a student, I’ve taught it as a teacher, I’ve been bound by it as a lawyer and a legislator. I took an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution as Commander-in-Chief, and as a citizen, I know that we must never, ever, turn our back on its enduring principles for expedience sake.

1. Which is exactly why your father went back to Kenya right zero? Wasn’t he some socialist overlord of a tribe or something written in your pathetic excuse for a book?
2. Which is exactly why you never wrote any scholarly work on the Consitution right? As a professor you are usually bound to write some time of scholarly work (or at least a text, heck I’m working on mine right now, Algebra II: Principles, Methods and Applications)
3. That same Consitution you directly violate each and everyday by buying out of the banks, GM and other unions? That one right?

I do not make this claim not simply as a matter of idealism. We uphold our most cherished values not only because doing so is right, but because it strengthens our country and it keeps us safe. Time and again, our values have been our best national security asset — in war and peace; in times of ease and in eras of upheaval.

Zero, let me help you, these terrorists aren’t mad at us because we lack value, it’s because we have the principles of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness (Property) that they are envious of us. Yes, our country is strengthened by our values, but it’s not the only thing.

Fidelity to our values is the reason why the United States of America grew from a small string of colonies under the writ of an empire to the strongest nation in the world. It’s the reason why enemy soldiers have surrendered to us in battle, knowing they’d receive better treatment from America’s Armed Forces than from their own government. It’s the reason why America has benefitted from strong alliances that amplified our power, and drawn a sharp, moral contrast with our adversaries. It’s the reason why we’ve been able to overpower the iron fist of fascism and outlast the iron curtain of communism, and enlist free nations and free peoples everywhere in the common cause and common effort of liberty.

First of all, that’s a bunch of (well, you know)…

Enemies don’t surrender because they know they’d receive better treatment, they surrender because they’ve lost the battle via bloodshed. Like I’m going to go into a fight looking forward to prison, I’m trying to win. Another thing you’re missing…Communism was not defeated by one way dialogue.

From Europe to the Pacific, we’ve been the nation that has shut down torture chambers and replaced tyranny with the rule of law. That is who we are. And where terrorists offer only the injustice of disorder and destruction, America must demonstrate that our values and our institutions are more resilient than a hateful ideology. After 9/11, we knew that we had entered a new era — that enemies who did not abide by any law of war would present new challenges to our application of the law; that our government would need new tools to protect the American people, and that these tools would have to allow us to prevent attacks instead of simply prosecuting those who try to carry them out.

Yes, but how did it happen via dialogue? No, via bloodshed on the battlefield.

Yes zero, wouldn’t it be nice if we could just rise above the terrorists and just dialogue at dinner with steak and potatoes and green beans? I’d love it too, but guess what that’s not going to happen. The application of the theory in real life doesn’t work. (Kind of like the majority of physics). The exact problem is that the terrorists have no concept of law, nor do they want one. As I’ve mentioned, they’re envious of us as a nation because of the values that we have as a nation. There goal is to make us like them, convert us all to Islam and have zero concept of a law.

The problem is that as mentioned, the terrorists aren’t from any other nation, and the application of the rule of law only applies to nations (as set forth in the Consitution and all the international protocols). We can not treat them ordinarily, because they’re not an ordinary enemy, period!

Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. I believe that many of these decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us — Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens — fell silent.

Of course these decisons were made with a rush. Bush and co. just spun around a wheel, and that’s how they made their decision!

Zero, you don’t get it! These decisions that were made were not easy by any means, but someone had to make them. Hard decisions not everyone likes. Like I enjoy giving paperwork that say people failed my class. I hope that you don’t think these people are cynical power crazy maniacs. I know that you are, but that’s not for this discussion.

In other words, we went off course. And this is not my assessment alone. It was an assessment that was shared by the American people who nominated candidates for President from both major parties who, despite our many differences, called for a new approach — one that rejected torture and one that recognized the imperative of closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay.

Okay Zero, time for you to shut up, I know i’ve been interupting you…but now I’m stopping you.

1. I didn’t vote for you
2. I didn’t vote for any politician based on his or her stance on the war.
3. Torture with respect to what? Personally, I think getting 3 meals a day and being allowed to live isn’t torture. Nor do I think waterboarding is toture with respect to the fact that terrorists behead us live on video tape, kill our very own with no mercy. But you know that’s just my humble opinion.
4. The closing of Gitmo is an extremely stupid one, as mentioned above. We can not treat these criminals as ordinary, because they’re not ordinary. I don’t want a terrorist anywhere near me. (Especially Islamic kind, although I could make an argument Liturgical Terrorists are worse)

Now let me be clear: We are indeed at war with al Qaeda and its affiliates
. We do need to update our institutions to deal with this threat. But we must do so with an abiding confidence in the rule of law and due process; in checks and balances and accountability. For reasons that I will explain, the decisions that were made over the last eight years established an ad hoc legal approach for fighting terrorism that was neither effective nor sustainable — a framework that failed to rely on our legal traditions and time-tested institutions, and that failed to use our values as a compass. And that’s why I took several steps upon taking office to better protect the American people.

Citizens of the United States have rights based upon our Consitution. Terrorists in short do not. (I’ll explain later)…You know, since there hasn’t been a repeat of 9/11 I’d say the methods were doing a pretty good job myself. The fact that we’ve been active in our approach has saved American lives.

First, I banned the use of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques by the United States of America. (Applause.)

If the regular techniques were working, don’t you think we would have used them? What do you think America is some heartless soul out for world domination? If you zero think this you are absolutely naive and are not fit to be president (which you’re not being born in Kenya anyway…but that’s not for now)

I know some have argued that brutal methods like waterboarding were necessary to keep us safe. I could not disagree more. As Commander-in-Chief, I see the intelligence. I bear the responsibility for keeping this country safe. And I categorically reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation. (Applause.) What’s more, they undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world. They serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists, and increase the will of our enemies to fight us, while decreasing the will of others to work with America. They risk the lives of our troops by making it less likely that others will surrender to them in battle, and more likely that Americans will be mistreated if they are captured. In short, they did not advance our war and counterterrorism efforts — they undermined them, and that is why I ended them once and for all. (Applause.)

You know the kid that just didn’t like you in school, just because? Those are like the terrorists, NOTHING WE DO WILL APPEASE THEM (short of bending over backwards, converting to Islam and adopting Sharia “Law”). Just get over it Zero. If the world gets mad at us, oh well.

Me being an American is a recruitment tool for Al Qaeda and those other loser groups. Me wearing a Cross is a recruitment tool. They just flat out don’t like us, get over it. Everything we do as Americans is a tool for recruitment for terrorists, so what are we going to do next…becasue it can be used to recruit terrorists no one’s going to be allowed to drive a car? Might as well following your lack of logic.

As I said above, if the regular methods worked, we would of used them. They are first given the chance to confess freely to any information that they have. If they don’t confess, they they go to “enhanced interegation techniques.” It’s not torture, torture would involve being forced to listen to the Barney Theme song 5 million times in a row.

Now, I should add, the arguments against these techniques did not originate from my administration. As Senator McCain once said, torture “serves as a great propaganda tool for those who recruit people to fight against us.” And even under President Bush, there was recognition among members of his own administration — including a Secretary of State, other senior officials, and many in the military and intelligence community — that those who argued for these tactics were on the wrong side of the debate, and the wrong side of history. That’s why we must leave these methods where they belong — in the past. They are not who we are, and they are not America.

Well, of course, isn’t there disagreement amongst people? DUH! So, what because some people disagreed with Bush, you’re going to side with them automatically without looking at the objective arguments for and against it, and not just because “I don’t like Bush?” The dilberate trash that you’re talking about the past administration is below you and “not American.” And while I’m at it, you want to know what else is “not American zero?” Going to other nations, appologizing and sucking up to Muslim nations.

The second decision that I made was to order the closing of the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. (Applause.)

For over seven years, we have detained hundreds of people at Guantanamo. During that time, the system of military commissions that were in place at Guantanamo succeeded in convicting a grand total of three suspected terrorists. Let me repeat that: three convictions in over seven years. Instead of bringing terrorists to justice, efforts at prosecution met setback after setback, cases lingered on, and in 2006 the Supreme Court invalidated the entire system. Meanwhile, over 525 detainees were released from Guantanamo under not my administration, under the previous administration. Let me repeat that: Two-thirds of the detainees were released before I took office and ordered the closure of Guantanamo.

Hmmm, let’s see, it’s called, time moves slowly. Evidence takes time to move. I don’t happen to have statistics on the regular justice system, but I can imagine the numbers are similar, not everyone is brought to justice at the exactly same time. Things take time, get over it, if we were to use this approach, imagine the things we’d have to throw away?

So, you’re worried about giving terrorists their Miranda rights? They’re terrorists, they’re not of our country, they don’t deserve the exact same treatment as Ameican CITIZENS do. (Oh wait, I know why now, you’re not even citizen of the US, and want to do this so you can get treated equally under the law)

There is also no question that Guantanamo set back the moral authority that is America’s strongest currency in the world. Instead of building a durable framework for the struggle against al Qaeda that drew upon our deeply held values and traditions, our government was defending positions that undermined the rule of law. In fact, part of the rationale for establishing Guantanamo in the first place was the misplaced notion that a prison there would be beyond the law — a proposition that the Supreme Court soundly rejected. Meanwhile, instead of serving as a tool to counter terrorism, Guantanamo became a symbol that helped al Qaeda recruit terrorists to its cause. Indeed, the existence of Guantanamo likely created more terrorists around the world than it ever detained.

Exactly right, because we just went in and decided to torture everyone right? Of Course Zero, of course 😉

Did you ever think that the people did the regular techniques first? Did you ever think that we had to build the prison because by definition they could not be prosecuted under American Law? Did you ever think that we as Americans are recruitment for Al Qaeda and crew?

Of course you didn’t zero, you’re just a community organizer attempting to run a country. (Which you’re doing well, into the ground)

I’ll finish the rest of zero’s speech later when I’m at home and not at the office 🙂

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