Posted by: Joe of St. Thérèse | December 5, 2010

the DREAM act

…I’ll be honest, I don’t know much about it….something gives me a feeling if the USCCB supports it I should be against it, I don’t know



  1. “something gives me a feeling if the USCCB supporets it I should be against it,”

    Have to start by saying that what you said reminds me of an old Groucho Marx song from the movie “Horse Feathers”:

    Seriously, I know the feeling, with their track record, it isn’t always easy to know if they are right or not.

  2. their track record is making me want to read the act, but I don’t have time for that, haha


    Those Tea Partiers, who I am a member better remember they were seated in Washington, by the votes of the people? Not the GOP, Not the Liberal Democrats, the open border fanatics or the special interests lobbyists–but the Independents, disillusioned Democrats and Republicans. This is a battle to Save America from the tax and spend mentality. I was in France to see my daughter and observed the actions of the French People. They closed down the country in a national strike. We–as Americans on the other hand complain and do nothing and let radical organizations and the shadow government tread us down in the financial mud.

    A well known anti-open border columnist Michelle Malkin and Champion of Justice has hit the nail squarely on the head about the catering to illegal aliens and the ever widening of doors to let anyone into our nation. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER INCREMENTAL CHAIN MIGRATION, IF THE SENATE PASSES THE DREAM ACT. THIS IS A DECEIVING AGENDA OF THE LIBERAL-DEMOCRATS AND THE FAR LEFT WING PRESS. Secret or stealth Amnesties have been going on under our noses for years, specifically the laws of Chain Migration, which adds to our population when a legitimate immigrant sponsors family members. The reality is that there is neglect on behalf of our government, to assure the original guarantor doesn’t renege on their obligation to keep financing the family members? What happens incessantly is that older sponsored family members become sick and the American taxpayers has to pay for their hospitalization or doctor visits. In addition, the original sponsor loses his job and can no longer support the father or mother, sister or brother.

    The government agencies do not have the personnel to enforce these laws and eventually the family members must rely on public social services. This is exactly the same situation if the Dream Act passes as the 2.1 million eligible students, can sponsor their immediate family once they gain permanent residency. Then after signing an affidavit of support, they can convey to America more mouths to feed, more sick and infirm that taxpayers must support by law, must educate the children or any new born baby and must imprison convicted felons. This chain migration unfortunately in the majority of cases becomes a taxpayer’s lament, because the chain migration law is never ending. The illegal immigration annexation of our country has got to the point, where State must protect and defend their population of citizens and permanent residents. The biggest hurdle to overcome is activist judges, who overlook the rights of citizens as invoked by the founding authors in the US Constitution.

    Arizona has embarked on its own judicial venture, to enforce laws that neither political party have really attempted to impose? There is a failure to secure the borders or execute some official directive to reveal the invasion from other countries via airport terminals. Too many tourists and students are misrepresenting their intention when entering these United States, fully aware they are here to settle. IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS SINCERE IN ENFORCING LAWS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, THE PENALTY FOR UNLAWFUL ENTRY WOULD BE A FELONY, PRISON AND DEPORTATION. Now low-skilled American workers of all races must compete for jobs in this recession period with foreign nationals. You would think with nearly 10 percent of Americans jobless, the US government would put thousands of “boots on the ground” the length of the Southern border.

    Among the major acts of Congress providing mass pardons and citizenship benefits:

    — The 1986 Immigration and Reform Control Act blanket amnesty for an estimated 2.7 million illegal aliens, which finally became 5 million as the program was full of fraud.

    — 1994: The “Section 245(i)” temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens.

    — 1997: Extension of the Section 245(i) amnesty.

    — 1997: The Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act for nearly one million illegal aliens from Central America.

    — 1998: The Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

    — 2000: Extension of amnesty for some 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed eligibility under the 1986 act.

    — 2000: The Legal Immigration Family Equity Act, which included a restoration of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty for 900,000 illegal aliens.

    This is in addition to hundreds of “private relief bills” sponsored in Congress every year. AL THESE SEEMINGLY INNOCENT BILLS END UP BEING A VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION

    This is just the proverbial tip of the iceberg that Liberal Democrats have failed to see, or just don’t care about. Each year America takes into this country through the visa process over a million new legal immigrants. Those readers interested in the dream Act, should read the full implications of this commitment of the passage of this law:

    Read more about the Dream Act at NumbersUSA and then you decide? Under current law (10 USC § 504), the Secretary of Defense can authorize the enlistment of illegal nationals. Once enlisted in the U.S. Armed Forces, under 8 USC § 1440, these illegal aliens can become naturalized citizens through expedited processing, often obtaining U.S. citizenship in six months? Call your Three Members of Congress through the Capitol Hill switchboard: 202-224-3121to stops this immigration travesty. Liberal-Democrats do not want the Dream Act to be reviewed.


  4. Francis, I agree that the government is broken, as well as the laws aren’t enforced.

    The only problem, the country is flat broke and can’t afford to deport all of the illegal immigrants that are in the country…nor can we give them amnesty for breaking the law. Earning citizenship I think the premise is fine, but where is the punishment for breaking the law of the US?

  5. Joe,

    Actually, the DREAM act doesn’t involve people who intentionally broke the law. It covers children of illegal immigrants, people who were brought here when they were very young and had no say. These young people have grown up in our country and are part of our culture, many of them have never known anything other than America and if they were sent back to their “home countries” it would be as if you were deported to Kazakhstan in that they’d feel like they were in a completely foreign land.

    All these people are asking for is to be able to contribute to our country, to serve in our military and be productive members of our society without having to look over their shoulders for fear of being sent back to a country that they don’t even remember coming from. No matter how you feel about the situation of adults coming to this country illegally, the children had no say and therefore bear no fault for their status. Throughout history immigrants have only made this country better and more prosperous, why should we reject that benefit now because of some technicality of these young people’s citizenship situation?

    • Andy, thank you for commenting at the blog…

      The only real problem (now that I’ve read the thing) that I have with the Dream act is this…why do we want to expose the children to the liberal education system that’s an absolute joke as it is right now. Things aren’t so bad in the math and physics departments (for which I worked before I became a seminarian), but I wouldn’t wish for anyone to be exposed to the liberal ideas which are anti-Catholic, anti-human and fundamentally flawed. I of course don’t think that people should be punished for the sins of someone else. My views on immigration are with what the Catechism teaches and nothing more than that. It’s a delicate issue illegal immigration since there are so many variables involved.

  6. Any education is better than none. I went to a school that was Catholic but fairly liberal and I didn’t lose my faith, and I know plenty who went to worse schools and turned out alright. On the other hand, if you never have the chance at education then you’ll never have the chance to enrich yourself and seek a better life. These young people should have the same access to education as anybody else in this country, and for better for worse the system we have is the only one available. We should also work toward improving our system of higher education, especially the part of it that is Catholic, but that is another issue entirely.

  7. Andy, exactly, though I wonder if trades are covered for this as well. we need people to do skilled labor as well. Not that I’m against college in any way. But not everyone is cut out for college whether people want to admit it or not.

    I have a plan for education system reform, but that is another blog entry which I probably won’t write until I get back in Ca for my vacation

    • I’m sure that trade schools are covered. In fact, I don’t know about the rest of the country but around here we have vocational/technical high schools where kids can learn a trade. The issue that is dealt with by the DREAM Act is that, while these kids can go to high school, they can’t apply for college because they need a social security number to do so. If kids can learn a trade when they’re still in high school, it might not even be an issue.

      • it will be interesting to see how this plays out if it passes the senate.

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